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US: Expert: School should have flagged behavior before shooting

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OXFORD TOWNSHIP, Mich. (AP) — The superintendent of a Michigan school district says no discipline was necessary for a teen who was summoned to the office a few hours before four students were fatally shot . Tim Thorne also acknowledged that Ethan Crumbley’s parents were at Oxford High School “We obviously are prosecuting the shooter to the fullest extent. There are other individuals who should be held accountable.” Later at a news conference, McDonald said she hoped to have an announcement “in the next 24 hours.” She had firmly signaled that Crumbley’s parents were under

The suspect in a Michigan school shooting possibly had the gun with him when he met with school officials that morning. The 15-year-old suspected gunman in a Michigan high school shooting that left four students dead and several others injured, likely had the weapon in his possession during a behavioral meeting with his parents and school officials just hours before the rampage, the county prosecutor said.

PONTIAC, Mich. (AP) — The warning signs were there: A search for gun ammunition on a cellphone, drawings of blood on a school desk and a written plea for help.

Gov. Gretchen Whitmer embraces Oakland County Executive Dave Coulter as the two leave flowers and pay their respects Thursday morning, Dec. 2, 2021 at Oxford High School in Oxford, Mich.  A 15-year-old boy has been denied bail and moved to jail after being charged in the Michigan school shooting that killed four students and injured others.(Jake May/The Flint Journal via AP) © Provided by Associated Press Gov. Gretchen Whitmer embraces Oakland County Executive Dave Coulter as the two leave flowers and pay their respects Thursday morning, Dec. 2, 2021 at Oxford High School in Oxford, Mich. A 15-year-old boy has been denied bail and moved to jail after being charged in the Michigan school shooting that killed four students and injured others.(Jake May/The Flint Journal via AP)

But on Tuesday, roughly 30 miles (50 kilometers) north of Detroit at Oxford High School, the student in question was sent back to the classroom after a school meeting with his parents. Three hours later four students were shot to death and six other students and a teacher were wounded.

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Asked whether the school should have told law enforcement about Crumbley's behavior , Bouchard declined to get into specifics but said it is part of the investigation. "We always prefer to err on the side of too much rather than too little," Bouchard said. In theory, the school district could be liable in a The school 's coordinator of anti-bullying programs said there was no information Crumbley was bullied ahead of the shooting . "There is nothing that he could have faced that would warrant the senseless, absolutely brutal violence on other kids," Bouchard said. Expert : Threat assessment teams could help.

Speaking at a press conference, Bouchard said that the schools did have contact with the suspect, identified as 15-year-old Ethan Crumbley, both the day before and the day of the shooting . He said the suspect was at the school , brought into a meeting, and then the shooting happened. The meeting was over behavior in the classroom that was concerning, he said. No motive as of yet. Personally I'd like to know if any psychotropics were used by the kid as that seems to be a fairly common thread amongst these.

Vanessa LaBrie holds onto her two children, Kiersteyn Fields, 10, and her brother Landon Baker, 8 , as they stand in their yard up the road from Oxford High School on Thursday, Dec. 2, 2021 in Oxford, Mich. A 15-year-old sophomore opened fire at his Michigan high school on Tuesday, killing four students, including a 16-year-old boy who died in a deputy’s patrol car on the way to a hospital, authorities said. (Jake May/The Flint Journal via AP) © Provided by Associated Press Vanessa LaBrie holds onto her two children, Kiersteyn Fields, 10, and her brother Landon Baker, 8 , as they stand in their yard up the road from Oxford High School on Thursday, Dec. 2, 2021 in Oxford, Mich. A 15-year-old sophomore opened fire at his Michigan high school on Tuesday, killing four students, including a 16-year-old boy who died in a deputy’s patrol car on the way to a hospital, authorities said. (Jake May/The Flint Journal via AP)

“The school should have been responsible to relay that to the sheriff’s office. It looks like this could have been prevented,” said Robert Jordan, founder and director of St. Louis-based Protecting Our Students. “People died because of those mistakes.”

Photos of three of the four teens killed in the Oxford High School shooting are posted on the window at Sullivan's Public House Restaurant and Bar on Thursday, Dec. 2, 2021 in Oxford, Mich. A 15-year-old sophomore opened fire at his Michigan high school on Tuesday, killing four students, including a 16-year-old boy who died in a deputy’s patrol car on the way to a hospital, authorities said. (Jake May/The Flint Journal via AP) © Provided by Associated Press Photos of three of the four teens killed in the Oxford High School shooting are posted on the window at Sullivan's Public House Restaurant and Bar on Thursday, Dec. 2, 2021 in Oxford, Mich. A 15-year-old sophomore opened fire at his Michigan high school on Tuesday, killing four students, including a 16-year-old boy who died in a deputy’s patrol car on the way to a hospital, authorities said. (Jake May/The Flint Journal via AP)

In addition to Jordan, parents of students slain in a 2018 school shooting in Florida say police should have been alerted before Tuesday's rampage.

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Students at Oxford High School in Oxford, Michigan, barricade themselves into a classroom after one of their number went on a shooting spree, killing four.

Crumbley stayed in school Tuesday and later emerged from a bathroom with a gun, firing at students in the hallway, police said. “ Should there have been different decisions made?" McDonald said when asked about keeping the teen in school . Meanwhile, dozens of schools in southeastern Michigan canceled classes Thursday due to concerns about threatening messages on social media following the Oxford shooting . Others planned to join them and close on Friday. “We know from research and experience that learning is nearly impossible when students and staff do not feel safe,” Grosse Pointe

The suspect in the Oxford High shooting, Ethan Crumbley, 15, is now charged as an adult with murder, terrorism and other crimes.

On Friday, prosecutors charged his parents, James and Jennifer Crumbley, with four counts each of involuntary manslaughter.

The 9mm semi-automatic pistol used in the shooting was bought at a local gun shop on Black Friday by James Crumbley as an early Christmas present for his son who is too young to legally own a handgun in Michigan, authorities said.

Navy blue and gold ribbons are wrapped around trees outside of Oxford High School on Thursday, Dec. 2, 2021 in Oxford, Mich. A 15-year-old sophomore opened fire at his Michigan high school on Tuesday, killing four students, including a 16-year-old boy who died in a deputy’s patrol car on the way to a hospital, authorities said. (Jake May/The Flint Journal via AP) © Provided by Associated Press Navy blue and gold ribbons are wrapped around trees outside of Oxford High School on Thursday, Dec. 2, 2021 in Oxford, Mich. A 15-year-old sophomore opened fire at his Michigan high school on Tuesday, killing four students, including a 16-year-old boy who died in a deputy’s patrol car on the way to a hospital, authorities said. (Jake May/The Flint Journal via AP)

School officials became concerned about the younger Crumbley on Monday, a day before the shooting, when a teacher saw him searching for ammunition on his phone, Oakland County Prosecutor Karen McDonald told reporters.

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“Any individual who had the opportunity to stop this tragedy should have done so,” McDonald said. Parents in the US are rarely charged in school shootings involving their children, even though most minors get guns from a parent or relative’s house, according to experts . “Gun ownership is a right but with that right comes comes great Sheriff Mike Bouchard disclosed on Wednesday that the parents met with school officials about their son’s classroom behavior , just a few hours before the shooting . McDonald said information about what had troubled the school “will most likely come to light soon”.

On Tuesday, a teacher found a note on Ethan’s desk and took a photo. It was a drawing of a gun pointing at the words, “The thoughts won’t stop. Help me,” McDonald said.

There also was a drawing of a bullet, she said, with words above it: “Blood everywhere.” Between the gun and the bullet was a person who appeared to have been shot twice and is bleeding, she said. “My life is useless” and “The world is dead” also were written.

Navy blue and gold ribbons are wrapped around a stop sign one-quarter mile south of Oxford High School on Thursday, Dec. 2, 2021 in Oxford, Mich. A 15-year-old sophomore opened fire at his Michigan high school on Tuesday, killing four students, including a 16-year-old boy who died in a deputy’s patrol car on the way to a hospital, authorities said. (Jake May/The Flint Journal via AP) © Provided by Associated Press Navy blue and gold ribbons are wrapped around a stop sign one-quarter mile south of Oxford High School on Thursday, Dec. 2, 2021 in Oxford, Mich. A 15-year-old sophomore opened fire at his Michigan high school on Tuesday, killing four students, including a 16-year-old boy who died in a deputy’s patrol car on the way to a hospital, authorities said. (Jake May/The Flint Journal via AP)

Both parents and Ethan met with school officials at 10 a.m. Tuesday. His parents left, and Ethan went back to his classes with his backpack, where investigators believe he stashed the gun. Authorities were not notified, something that county Sheriff Michael Bouchard said he wishes would have been done.

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  Prosecutor lays out disturbing timeline in explaining why school shooting suspect's parents were charged The parents of Ethan Crumbley, the suspected shooter at Oxford High School in Michigan, have each been charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter. © Carlos Osorio/AP Four students were killed in the shooting, and six other students and a teacher were wounded. In announcing the charges Friday, Oakland County Prosecutor Karen McDonald laid out a disturbing timeline in explaining why James and Jennifer Crumbley were charged in the shooting deaths.

By 1 p.m. Tuesday, the school erupted in gunshots, chaos and bloodshed.

“The school had the responsibility to be doing an immediate threat assessment on the student and bringing into that conversation the sworn police officer and law enforcement,” said Lori Alhadeff, whose 14-year-old daughter, Alyssa, was one of 17 students slain in 2018 at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High in Parkland, Florida.

Waterford resident Andrew Baldwin, cousin of Madisyn Baldwin, places candles at the base of a a memorial with his 5-year-old daughter Ariyah Baldwin on Wednesday, Dec. 1, 2021 outside of Oxford High School in Oxford, Mich. Madisyn Baldwin, 17, was one of four teens killed in Tuesday's school shooting. A 15-year-old sophomore opened fire at his Michigan high school on Tuesday, killing four students, including a 16-year-old boy who died in a deputy’s patrol car on the way to a hospital, authorities said. (Jake May/The Flint Journal via AP) © Provided by Associated Press Waterford resident Andrew Baldwin, cousin of Madisyn Baldwin, places candles at the base of a a memorial with his 5-year-old daughter Ariyah Baldwin on Wednesday, Dec. 1, 2021 outside of Oxford High School in Oxford, Mich. Madisyn Baldwin, 17, was one of four teens killed in Tuesday's school shooting. A 15-year-old sophomore opened fire at his Michigan high school on Tuesday, killing four students, including a 16-year-old boy who died in a deputy’s patrol car on the way to a hospital, authorities said. (Jake May/The Flint Journal via AP)

“They definitely should have searched his bag to make sure he doesn’t have access to a gun, and then to his house to make sure he doesn’t have access. This shooting should never have happened.”

Three Oakland County Sheriff's deputies survey the grounds outside of the Crumbley residence while seeking James and Jennifer Crumbley, parents of alleged Oxford High School shooter Ethan Crumbley, on Friday, Dec. 3, 2021, in Oxford, Mich. (Jake May/The Flint Journal via AP) © Provided by Associated Press Three Oakland County Sheriff's deputies survey the grounds outside of the Crumbley residence while seeking James and Jennifer Crumbley, parents of alleged Oxford High School shooter Ethan Crumbley, on Friday, Dec. 3, 2021, in Oxford, Mich. (Jake May/The Flint Journal via AP)

About five weeks before the Stoneman Douglas shooting, an FBI tip line received a call saying former student Nikolas Cruz had bought guns and planned to “slip into a school and start shooting the place up.”

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That information was never forwarded to the FBI. Cruz, who had been expelled from the school a year earlier and had a long history of emotional and behavioral problems, never was contacted.

Now 23, Cruz pleaded guilty in October to 17 counts of first-degree murder.

“We have to take these threats seriously,” Alhadeff said.

“It’s infuriating to me, upsetting,” she added. “It breaks my heart for the families that lost somebody. Knowing what we know now about the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas we have to take these ( threats) seriously.”

But looking at such an issue after-the-fact raises other questions, said Christopher Smith, professor of Law and Public Policy at Michigan State University and chair of the Michigan Coalition to Prevent Gun Violence.

You have to consider whether the “teacher and school officials specifically have in their training that you need to report all these things,” Smith said.

“It’s easy enough to say people should do this and this and this,” he added. “If it’s not a part of the training, we have to wonder if it was realistic to expect someone to report this.”

An email left with Oxford Community Schools Superintendent Tim Throne on Friday was not returned, as were earlier requests for comment this week.

In a video message to the community Thursday night, Throne acknowledged the meeting of Crumbley, the parents and school officials. Throne offered no details but said that "no discipline was warranted.”

Jordan said much needed to be done after the problems were noticed Monday and Tuesday by school officials and before the shooting.

“They should have called the parents in to evacuate the child,” he said. “Then they should have looked at social media to see if they could discover any kind of plot. All of this is in an effort to prevent school shootings.”

Any teacher who sees concerning behavior should report it to the school administration and the administration should follow the policies of the school district, which “hopefully include the ability to do a behavioral threat assessment, getting the child help before they resort to violence," said Tony Montalto, whose 14-year-old daughter Gina also was killed in 2018 at Stoneman Douglas.

“You bring professionals together and find the best way to get a student help,” Montalto said. “Early intervention is the best way to come together. Waiting until it rises to the level of criminal activity or murder is too late.”

Why Ethan Crumbley's Parents Face Manslaughter Charges When Only One Allegedly Bought Gun .
James Crumbley bought the gun Ethan allegedly used in the November 30 shooting, but his wife is also facing charges of involuntary manslaughter.Some people have questioned why Jennifer Crumbley received the same four counts of involuntary manslaughter as her husband when McDonald has stated the father bought the weapon for Ethan.

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